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		<title>By: CoolNet</title>
		<link>http://netsarescorching.com/2009/07/23/state-of-the-nets-we-need-to-stay-put/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you 100%.  I do not see all our moves as simply salary dumps.  Trading Kidd was practically no choice, RJ for Yi was a gamble, sure, and like you said, people forget Yi was a 6th pick, he does have that potential we saw just prior to him breaking his finger.  I broke my pinky and believe me the shot does not come back automatically (mine never  did).  I&#039;m sure he&#039;s been working on it all summer.  Hated to see Vince go, but, as I was watching the NBA finals last year, I thought, and have previously written, how Vince really would have helped the Magic.  Really hope he and Dwight win the title next year.

Hard to predict how the season will go, we could be horrible, or we could be a bit of a surprise and be not so bad.  Now, I like the young talent we have now.  Love Brook, Devin can be a dominant PG in the Eastern Conference, Lee has a tremendous upside, I was truly happy the Nets drafted Terrence Williams, and Jarvis Hayes may be the most important player on the team.  There are three main questions; first can Devin really lead a team?  Dirk was the team leader in Dallas and Vince was our leader last year, so this will really be a different role for him.  Second, how differently will teams play Harris and Lopez without Vince Carter to worry about and, full disclosure, I&#039;m no fan of Lawrence Frank, how will Coach Frank and the team adjust to that and how will he develop Terrence Williams?  Will he let him play and develop or will there be stretches where Williams doesn&#039;t see the floor at all the way Frank screwed up with Ryan Anderson last year?

I see the Nets being somewhat of a surprise team, and if Lawrence Frank doesn&#039;t screw it up, they&#039;ll be exciting to watch, something like the Blazers were two seasons ago with all their young talent.  Oh, and I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing Glen Davis in a Nets uniform.  I was pulling for the Nets to draft him although even I did not see him as a 1st rounder then.  The Nets drafted Sean Williams.  Compare those stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you 100%.  I do not see all our moves as simply salary dumps.  Trading Kidd was practically no choice, RJ for Yi was a gamble, sure, and like you said, people forget Yi was a 6th pick, he does have that potential we saw just prior to him breaking his finger.  I broke my pinky and believe me the shot does not come back automatically (mine never  did).  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s been working on it all summer.  Hated to see Vince go, but, as I was watching the NBA finals last year, I thought, and have previously written, how Vince really would have helped the Magic.  Really hope he and Dwight win the title next year.</p>
<p>Hard to predict how the season will go, we could be horrible, or we could be a bit of a surprise and be not so bad.  Now, I like the young talent we have now.  Love Brook, Devin can be a dominant PG in the Eastern Conference, Lee has a tremendous upside, I was truly happy the Nets drafted Terrence Williams, and Jarvis Hayes may be the most important player on the team.  There are three main questions; first can Devin really lead a team?  Dirk was the team leader in Dallas and Vince was our leader last year, so this will really be a different role for him.  Second, how differently will teams play Harris and Lopez without Vince Carter to worry about and, full disclosure, I&#8217;m no fan of Lawrence Frank, how will Coach Frank and the team adjust to that and how will he develop Terrence Williams?  Will he let him play and develop or will there be stretches where Williams doesn&#8217;t see the floor at all the way Frank screwed up with Ryan Anderson last year?</p>
<p>I see the Nets being somewhat of a surprise team, and if Lawrence Frank doesn&#8217;t screw it up, they&#8217;ll be exciting to watch, something like the Blazers were two seasons ago with all their young talent.  Oh, and I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing Glen Davis in a Nets uniform.  I was pulling for the Nets to draft him although even I did not see him as a 1st rounder then.  The Nets drafted Sean Williams.  Compare those stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel</title>
		<link>http://netsarescorching.com/2009/07/23/state-of-the-nets-we-need-to-stay-put/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that the Nets should totally go after Warrick. give some of the mid level exception for one year and see what he can do beside lopez and harris. i think he can be a really good player running the fast break with cdr,twill,c lee,devin and also help brook with the rebounding. hes also only 27 like hayes who kiki really likes so he can help them right now be competitive and maybe in the future if he does well. so forget about big baby hes as much overrated as leon is underrated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that the Nets should totally go after Warrick. give some of the mid level exception for one year and see what he can do beside lopez and harris. i think he can be a really good player running the fast break with cdr,twill,c lee,devin and also help brook with the rebounding. hes also only 27 like hayes who kiki really likes so he can help them right now be competitive and maybe in the future if he does well. so forget about big baby hes as much overrated as leon is underrated</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Milewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Milewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Ike Diogu will emerge, but not into an all star. He can probably score 10-15 points per game &amp; would be a good addition to the inside game with Lopez. I think the Jefferson deal was trash, Bobby Simmons is alright, but I personally do think Yi has not much potential. After the injury, Yi was never the same. His shot is off from the outside and he can&#039;t post up. Sorry, Nets fans but he isn&#039;t the second coming of Yao Ming. Other free agents I saw available this year are Hakim Warrick, Leon Powe and Drew Gooden. They&#039;re not all stars but the Nets have a small payroll. Drew is a veteran who is an average, all-around player. Hakim Warrick looks like he could be a good second or third fiddle to Devin Harris/Brook Lopez. Leon Powe is unfortunately underrated, but what can you say playing behind the Big Ticket and the Big Baby? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Ike Diogu will emerge, but not into an all star. He can probably score 10-15 points per game &amp; would be a good addition to the inside game with Lopez. I think the Jefferson deal was trash, Bobby Simmons is alright, but I personally do think Yi has not much potential. After the injury, Yi was never the same. His shot is off from the outside and he can&#8217;t post up. Sorry, Nets fans but he isn&#8217;t the second coming of Yao Ming. Other free agents I saw available this year are Hakim Warrick, Leon Powe and Drew Gooden. They&#8217;re not all stars but the Nets have a small payroll. Drew is a veteran who is an average, all-around player. Hakim Warrick looks like he could be a good second or third fiddle to Devin Harris/Brook Lopez. Leon Powe is unfortunately underrated, but what can you say playing behind the Big Ticket and the Big Baby? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Smack Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smack Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nets have a gaping hole where the power bigs are supposed to be.

I&#039;d like to see Ike Diogu on the team next season.  Given that he can be signed at or near the minimum, I see no downside.  

Let&#039;s look at the other Guys-with-Size still floating around.  By and large they fit either or both of two classes:
1.  Too old -- Lorenzen Wright, Juwan Howard, Mikki Moore, Brian Skinner, Jarron Collins; and
2.  Too limited -- Robert Swift, Shav Randolph, Ced Simmons, Johan Petro, Shelden Williams. 

There aren&#039;t many others left.  The most promising of that number is Glen Davis.  I&#039;m not a Baby fan, as I may have mentioned. Overpriced. Overweight.  Weak rebounder for his size/position. Crap from the line, and on and on.  

Neither Davis nor Diogu has reached his ceiling yet, and exactly how good they can be remainst unknown.  We do know this, though:  Diogu outperforms Davis -- often by a great margin -- in every statistical measure I can find save for Steals% (small disparity) and Assist% (great disparity).

As for assist%, past performance suggests Diogu&#039;s &#039;08/&#039;09 season was aberrant, but in any case would be slightly lower than GD&#039;s.  Davis is also 2.5 years younger.  

My argument in favor of Diogu might pass the smell test even if they commanded equal compensation.  But at 1/6th the cost, I don&#039;t know how the Nets couldn&#039;t consider taking a flyer on Ike.

Thank you, and good night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nets have a gaping hole where the power bigs are supposed to be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Ike Diogu on the team next season.  Given that he can be signed at or near the minimum, I see no downside.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the other Guys-with-Size still floating around.  By and large they fit either or both of two classes:<br />
1.  Too old &#8212; Lorenzen Wright, Juwan Howard, Mikki Moore, Brian Skinner, Jarron Collins; and<br />
2.  Too limited &#8212; Robert Swift, Shav Randolph, Ced Simmons, Johan Petro, Shelden Williams. </p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many others left.  The most promising of that number is Glen Davis.  I&#8217;m not a Baby fan, as I may have mentioned. Overpriced. Overweight.  Weak rebounder for his size/position. Crap from the line, and on and on.  </p>
<p>Neither Davis nor Diogu has reached his ceiling yet, and exactly how good they can be remainst unknown.  We do know this, though:  Diogu outperforms Davis &#8212; often by a great margin &#8212; in every statistical measure I can find save for Steals% (small disparity) and Assist% (great disparity).</p>
<p>As for assist%, past performance suggests Diogu&#8217;s &#8217;08/&#8217;09 season was aberrant, but in any case would be slightly lower than GD&#8217;s.  Davis is also 2.5 years younger.  </p>
<p>My argument in favor of Diogu might pass the smell test even if they commanded equal compensation.  But at 1/6th the cost, I don&#8217;t know how the Nets couldn&#8217;t consider taking a flyer on Ike.</p>
<p>Thank you, and good night.</p>
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		<title>By: Nets Are Scorching &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AROUND THE INTER-NETS:Nets In NBA Hell, But For One Year Only</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nets Are Scorching &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AROUND THE INTER-NETS:Nets In NBA Hell, But For One Year Only</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I knew that I had to link to it at some point.  I also find it funny that it came during the same day my post came out.  Here is a little info on Basketball Fiend&#8217;s Basketball Hell: The concept of NBA Hell is [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I knew that I had to link to it at some point.  I also find it funny that it came during the same day my post came out.  Here is a little info on Basketball Fiend&#8217;s Basketball Hell: The concept of NBA Hell is [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Mehmet Salgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mehmet Salgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire your optimism but you are forgetting one single fact...

Who owns this franchise, yeah, Ratman, cheapest owner of the universe....

We would be the only team with 25 mil$ roster next year, that would be our only achievement....

And we are not all that down with Thorn moves, Devin Harris and 2 1st for JKidd was masterful, Yi for RJ was Ok(I still think Yi has potential) but Courtney Lee for VC and Ryan Anderson was one of the worst salary dumps of the history....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire your optimism but you are forgetting one single fact&#8230;</p>
<p>Who owns this franchise, yeah, Ratman, cheapest owner of the universe&#8230;.</p>
<p>We would be the only team with 25 mil$ roster next year, that would be our only achievement&#8230;.</p>
<p>And we are not all that down with Thorn moves, Devin Harris and 2 1st for JKidd was masterful, Yi for RJ was Ok(I still think Yi has potential) but Courtney Lee for VC and Ryan Anderson was one of the worst salary dumps of the history&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the Hawks, though, is that I can be relatively certain that they&#039;re never going to win a championship with this core. Their best player (JJ) has more or less reached his peak, and their second best player (Smith) is a bit of knucklehead and not really a go-to-guy. 

You have to draft a legit superstar in this league in order to contend for the championship (see for example Howard in Orlando, Roy in Portland, and likely Durant in OKC). So I don&#039;t have a problem with where we&#039;re at right now, but Thorn needs to make sure the next draft or two absolutely counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Hawks, though, is that I can be relatively certain that they&#8217;re never going to win a championship with this core. Their best player (JJ) has more or less reached his peak, and their second best player (Smith) is a bit of knucklehead and not really a go-to-guy. </p>
<p>You have to draft a legit superstar in this league in order to contend for the championship (see for example Howard in Orlando, Roy in Portland, and likely Durant in OKC). So I don&#8217;t have a problem with where we&#8217;re at right now, but Thorn needs to make sure the next draft or two absolutely counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you&#039;d notice, most good teams don&#039;t use good young players as building blocks. They use them as trade bait. I don&#039;t think we wanna rely on free agents to add to our young core, but instead go like Boston and LA (and I know those were total giveaways, but giveaways can be had with the right contacts or if the team is determined enough to save money... like us... oh. right)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you&#8217;d notice, most good teams don&#8217;t use good young players as building blocks. They use them as trade bait. I don&#8217;t think we wanna rely on free agents to add to our young core, but instead go like Boston and LA (and I know those were total giveaways, but giveaways can be had with the right contacts or if the team is determined enough to save money&#8230; like us&#8230; oh. right)</p>
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