Comments on: These Boos are For You Bruce Ratner http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner The New Jersey Nets affiliate of the ESPN TrueHoop Network Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:50:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Humpherys http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1361 Chris Humpherys Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:46:27 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1361 Great piece. So what do Nets fans do if you can't land any of the big time free agents next season? Punt? Here's my take... http://sportschump.net/2009/12/09/the-new-jersey-nets-long-wait-for-free-agency/2429/ Great piece.

So what do Nets fans do if you can’t land any of the big time free agents next season?

Punt?

Here’s my take…

http://sportschump.net/2009/12/09/the-new-jersey-nets-long-wait-for-free-agency/2429/

]]> By: njnetsjay http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1360 njnetsjay Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:07:29 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1360 I pretty much lost my voice from all the booing last Wednesday; most of it was intended for Bruce Ratner. Imo he is definitely the main culprit for the state of the Nets. I also feel that Rod Thorn and Kiki have done a good job putting this team together with the conditions they've had to work with. Looking at the draft picks, I think the 2008 draft is an example of the type of job they have been doing (Brooke, Ryan Anderson late 1st round and CDR in the 2nd round). In regards to the trades, they were able to get young (fairly cheap) talent. Yes, they included players such as Rafer Alston and Bobby Simmons, but those are players in the last year of their contracts (just a few more months of seeing them in a Nets jersey at most - I can't wait!). Sorry to get side tracked, but back to Bruce Ratner. I understand that being an owner means the bottom line and making money is the goal at hand, but the condition he has the Nets in is a mess and a perfect recipe for failure. There's the idea that players try to leave all other distractions behind when it comes to game time. Whether its problems at the home front (as per Tiger - sorry had to get that one in there) or problems with management or coaches, when it's time to play, it's time to play and try to win. I think Bruce Ratner needs to get that mentality as well. While there are all the distractions going on with the team (move to Brooklyn or temporarily to Newark, the deal with the new owner), when it comes to the game, he needs to make sure that he concentrates on the game. I think he needs to remember that he owns a sports team. Let me repeat that. HE OWNS A SPORTS TEAM! In other words, he makes money by the team winning games and selling tickets/merchandise/sponsorship/etc. I know that this isn't a perfect model; there's always the talk about how they still couldn't constantly pack the Continental Airlines Arena even with 2 straight appearances to the NBA Finals. However, you can’t deny the correlation between wins and profit. Until ownership changes its mentality, the Nets will be in a sorry losing state and ownership will never profit (or at least not lose as much). Btw – the other booing I did was for Bobby Simmons. I loved how he finally got into the game during the second half (not sure if he played in the first half, got to the game late, stupid Secaucus Junction busses to the Meadowlands stop running after a certain time), but first possession, he gets the ball in the paint (left hand side of the basket), dribbles away from the basket, probably realized “Oh, I’m like 5 feet away from the basket”, throws up a turnaround jumper and then AIRBALL!!!!...I think I pulled something from booing so hard. =) I pretty much lost my voice from all the booing last Wednesday; most of it was intended for Bruce Ratner. Imo he is definitely the main culprit for the state of the Nets. I also feel that Rod Thorn and Kiki have done a good job putting this team together with the conditions they’ve had to work with. Looking at the draft picks, I think the 2008 draft is an example of the type of job they have been doing (Brooke, Ryan Anderson late 1st round and CDR in the 2nd round). In regards to the trades, they were able to get young (fairly cheap) talent. Yes, they included players such as Rafer Alston and Bobby Simmons, but those are players in the last year of their contracts (just a few more months of seeing them in a Nets jersey at most – I can’t wait!).

Sorry to get side tracked, but back to Bruce Ratner. I understand that being an owner means the bottom line and making money is the goal at hand, but the condition he has the Nets in is a mess and a perfect recipe for failure.

There’s the idea that players try to leave all other distractions behind when it comes to game time. Whether its problems at the home front (as per Tiger – sorry had to get that one in there) or problems with management or coaches, when it’s time to play, it’s time to play and try to win. I think Bruce Ratner needs to get that mentality as well. While there are all the distractions going on with the team (move to Brooklyn or temporarily to Newark, the deal with the new owner), when it comes to the game, he needs to make sure that he concentrates on the game.

I think he needs to remember that he owns a sports team. Let me repeat that. HE OWNS A SPORTS TEAM! In other words, he makes money by the team winning games and selling tickets/merchandise/sponsorship/etc. I know that this isn’t a perfect model; there’s always the talk about how they still couldn’t constantly pack the Continental Airlines Arena even with 2 straight appearances to the NBA Finals. However, you can’t deny the correlation between wins and profit. Until ownership changes its mentality, the Nets will be in a sorry losing state and ownership will never profit (or at least not lose as much).

Btw – the other booing I did was for Bobby Simmons. I loved how he finally got into the game during the second half (not sure if he played in the first half, got to the game late, stupid Secaucus Junction busses to the Meadowlands stop running after a certain time), but first possession, he gets the ball in the paint (left hand side of the basket), dribbles away from the basket, probably realized “Oh, I’m like 5 feet away from the basket”, throws up a turnaround jumper and then AIRBALL!!!!…I think I pulled something from booing so hard. =)

]]> By: shea23 http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1359 shea23 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:24:28 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1359 Oh yeah Marcus Williams was a good pick at 21 worth the risk (if there was any) he was projected to go at 10 considering how hard it is to get anything better at 21 Oh yeah Marcus Williams was a good pick at 21 worth the risk (if there was any) he was projected to go at 10 considering how hard it is to get anything better at 21

]]> By: Mark Ginocchio http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1358 Mark Ginocchio Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:50:41 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1358 bball - I personally never saw a scenario where Carter and Jefferson were going to work together on the floor at the same time. it's not even that they're similar wings, but you had Jefferson, who best fit into a system like the Kidd-Martin-Kittles fast-break Nets and Carter came and tried to turn this team into a half-court team that played so-so defense. There was a clash. With that said, I understand where you're going - obviously that line-up you mentioned would have won games, and probably made the playoffs as a 6 seed for a few years running - but if this organization ever found a legitimate PF replacement for Kenyon Martin back in the day, I don't think we ever would have been in this mess. bball – I personally never saw a scenario where Carter and Jefferson were going to work together on the floor at the same time. it’s not even that they’re similar wings, but you had Jefferson, who best fit into a system like the Kidd-Martin-Kittles fast-break Nets and Carter came and tried to turn this team into a half-court team that played so-so defense. There was a clash. With that said, I understand where you’re going – obviously that line-up you mentioned would have won games, and probably made the playoffs as a 6 seed for a few years running – but if this organization ever found a legitimate PF replacement for Kenyon Martin back in the day, I don’t think we ever would have been in this mess.

]]> By: bball http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1357 bball Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:19:56 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1357 I guess whe have to wait and see how well Lee and Yi do. One more thing I gotta say regarding the trades. I understand that Alston, Simmons, and Battie are just cap space but they have done absolutely nothing this season and in simmons' case nothing last year either. They traded two centerpieces for 2 terrible ones in alston and simmons, one yet to put on a jersey for the nets in a game in battie and 2 wild cards in yi and lee. It pains me to watch this season guys I guess whe have to wait and see how well Lee and Yi do. One more thing I gotta say regarding the trades. I understand that Alston, Simmons, and Battie are just cap space but they have done absolutely nothing this season and in simmons’ case nothing last year either. They traded two centerpieces for 2 terrible ones in alston and simmons, one yet to put on a jersey for the nets in a game in battie and 2 wild cards in yi and lee. It pains me to watch this season guys

]]> By: bball http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1356 bball Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:08:32 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1356 Mark, I respect your work and think your great at sports blogging so I'm gonna ask you this. Do you think a lineup of Harris, Carter, lopez, and RJ would work out? That would take out any 2010 dreams we have but I don't really see anyone coming to NJ. The RJ and VC trades were just terrible in my opinion. They didn't even get any draft picks! Mark, I respect your work and think your great at sports blogging so I’m gonna ask you this. Do you think a lineup of Harris, Carter, lopez, and RJ would work out? That would take out any 2010 dreams we have but I don’t really see anyone coming to NJ. The RJ and VC trades were just terrible in my opinion. They didn’t even get any draft picks!

]]> By: Mark Ginocchio http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1355 Mark Ginocchio Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:21:39 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1355 In my opinion, arguing the Nets draft strategy from 02-07 is silly. Outside of the lottery, the draft is often a crap shoot, and there are ALWAYS stories of some guy dropping into the 20s, or the second round. How many people skipped on Sam Cassell or Nick Van Exel in the 1990s? Back when the Nets were perennial eastern contenders, Thorn used his mid-to-late first round picks on low risk high reward projects. Marcus Williams, was considered a steal when he dropped to the Nets. Yes, Antonie Wright was a disappointment, but keep in mind 16 other teams passed on Danny Granger (the player often cited as who the Nets should have drafted). This isn't the Nets wasting lottery picks on Kwame Brown or Adam Morrison. When Thorn passes on a clear slam dunk in the draft, give me a call. In my opinion, arguing the Nets draft strategy from 02-07 is silly. Outside of the lottery, the draft is often a crap shoot, and there are ALWAYS stories of some guy dropping into the 20s, or the second round. How many people skipped on Sam Cassell or Nick Van Exel in the 1990s? Back when the Nets were perennial eastern contenders, Thorn used his mid-to-late first round picks on low risk high reward projects. Marcus Williams, was considered a steal when he dropped to the Nets. Yes, Antonie Wright was a disappointment, but keep in mind 16 other teams passed on Danny Granger (the player often cited as who the Nets should have drafted). This isn’t the Nets wasting lottery picks on Kwame Brown or Adam Morrison. When Thorn passes on a clear slam dunk in the draft, give me a call.

]]> By: shea23 http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1354 shea23 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:08:45 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1354 I think the team could have made the playoffs this year with the addition of t will and expanded game of our rookie like cdr and brook. I suppose in the long run we're better off but am I the only one who still wonders about RJ trade. He wasn't that old and his contract while big not quite as large as kidd or carter. I guess in the long ruon n it depends Yi and who we pick up. I think Jefferson was young enough to stick around though even if Carter wasn't I think the team could have made the playoffs this year with the addition of t will and expanded game of our rookie like cdr and brook. I suppose in the long run we’re better off but am I the only one who still wonders about RJ trade. He wasn’t that old and his contract while big not quite as large as kidd or carter. I guess in the long ruon n it depends Yi and who we pick up. I think Jefferson was young enough to stick around though even if Carter wasn’t

]]> By: shea23 http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1353 shea23 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:05:00 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1353 To be fair one or two pics weren't bad or at least one. Kristic looked like a real nice player before his injury I don't remember any other good picks and they got him in the 20's. Wait did we get him in 2002? hmmm I do remember Marcus Williams Antoine Wright etc. however To be fair one or two pics weren’t bad or at least one. Kristic looked like a real nice player before his injury I don’t remember any other good picks and they got him in the 20′s. Wait did we get him in 2002? hmmm I do remember Marcus Williams Antoine Wright etc. however

]]> By: bball http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/03/these-boos-are-for-you-bruce-ratner/#comment-1352 bball Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:58:04 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5227#comment-1352 It's unfortunate when you think we could have had Lopez, Harris, RJ, and VC in a lineup. Thanks to Ratner we don't. It’s unfortunate when you think we could have had Lopez, Harris, RJ, and VC in a lineup. Thanks to Ratner we don’t.

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