Comments on: Looking At Kiki’s Style Of Play http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=looking-at-kikis-style-of-play New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets affiliate of the ESPN TrueHoop Network Thu, 24 May 2012 10:24:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Revisiting Kiki’s Style Of Play http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1551 NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Revisiting Kiki’s Style Of Play Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:02:11 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1551 [...] early December, exactly 8 games into Kiki’s tenure as head coach, we looked at his team’s playing style.  A style that was completely different to what Lawrence Frank was doing.  If you don’t [...] [...] early December, exactly 8 games into Kiki’s tenure as head coach, we looked at his team’s playing style.  A style that was completely different to what Lawrence Frank was doing.  If you don’t [...]

]]> By: NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Missed Lay-Ups Are Really Hurting The Nets http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1550 NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Missed Lay-Ups Are Really Hurting The Nets Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:02:00 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1550 [...] make at the league average – it was about 17.3 – 1.5 more – or 3 points more).  We have talked about how the Nets aren’t really playing good defense anymore and how they just try to outscore [...] [...] make at the league average – it was about 17.3 – 1.5 more – or 3 points more).  We have talked about how the Nets aren’t really playing good defense anymore and how they just try to outscore [...]

]]> By: A.M. http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1549 A.M. Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:40:43 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1549 Damn, you need to get out more first off. Anyway, as was pointed out, the comparisons aren't valid bc Coach Frank never had a full roster for maybe more than 3 games, and they still weren't being hammered in losses like vs. Toronto by the way. I still say Frank deserves COY consideration for even keeping that group comepetitive, but since he didn't get a win I'll understand if he gets edged out. At least he's still a solid coach, who will be back on the sidelines as soon as next season. As for Kiki, he's way out of his depth here. The team already looks like they've quit on him. He'll be back in the front office if he's lucky next year, or more likely in the studio, or perhaps filling in for Rivers Cuomo on his nights off. Damn, you need to get out more first off. Anyway, as was pointed out, the comparisons aren’t valid bc Coach Frank never had a full roster for maybe more than 3 games, and they still weren’t being hammered in losses like vs. Toronto by the way. I still say Frank deserves COY consideration for even keeping that group comepetitive, but since he didn’t get a win I’ll understand if he gets edged out. At least he’s still a solid coach, who will be back on the sidelines as soon as next season. As for Kiki, he’s way out of his depth here. The team already looks like they’ve quit on him. He’ll be back in the front office if he’s lucky next year, or more likely in the studio, or perhaps filling in for Rivers Cuomo on his nights off.

]]> By: A.S. http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1548 A.S. Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:58:55 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1548 The main difference here is the presence or absence of Devin Harris. When Devin was out, more often than not, the Nets defense was excellent. When Devin has played, more often than not, the defense is bad. To use a crude methodology, look at the percentage of games below 100 in defensive efficiency. When the Nets had Devin and were coached by Frank/Barrise, they were below 100 in DefEff in 2 out of 8 games. When the Nets DIDN'T have Devin and were coached by Frank/Barrise, they were below 100 in DefEff in 6 out of 10 games. When the Nets had Devin and were coached by Kiki, they were below 100 in DefEff in 1 out of 8 games. It looks to me as though the defensive issue falls more towards Devin than the coach. The main difference here is the presence or absence of Devin Harris. When Devin was out, more often than not, the Nets defense was excellent. When Devin has played, more often than not, the defense is bad.

To use a crude methodology, look at the percentage of games below 100 in defensive efficiency.

When the Nets had Devin and were coached by Frank/Barrise, they were below 100 in DefEff in 2 out of 8 games.

When the Nets DIDN’T have Devin and were coached by Frank/Barrise, they were below 100 in DefEff in 6 out of 10 games.

When the Nets had Devin and were coached by Kiki, they were below 100 in DefEff in 1 out of 8 games.

It looks to me as though the defensive issue falls more towards Devin than the coach.

]]> By: mt57 http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1547 mt57 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:38:40 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1547 Comparions and comments aren't valid because of the huge difference in rosters between the Frank and Kiki phases of the season. Comparions and comments aren’t valid because of the huge difference in rosters between the Frank and Kiki phases of the season.

]]> By: Shea23 http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1546 Shea23 Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:44:26 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1546 Harris hasn't been much of a defender since joining the nets except maybe some improment this year. T Will was a good defender in college that hasn't translated to the nba yet he routinely messes up his defensive assignments. Obviously C Lee is a good defender and Hassel is too but he's been placed against four or mismatches a lot this year. SWAT gets no playing time and gives up too many fouls. So thats why those player can't or haven't helped us on D I feel. Harris hasn’t been much of a defender since joining the nets except maybe some improment this year. T Will was a good defender in college that hasn’t translated to the nba yet he routinely messes up his defensive assignments. Obviously C Lee is a good defender and Hassel is too but he’s been placed against four or mismatches a lot this year. SWAT gets no playing time and gives up too many fouls. So thats why those player can’t or haven’t helped us on D I feel.

]]> By: Andy http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1545 Andy Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:39:17 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1545 I think that although it is beneficial for the Nets to improve their offensive efficiency, they can't slack off on their defense. That's the only way they can learn to win in the future. Sure the increased offense is great but ultimately the Nets need defense to be a great team in the future. With their current athleticism, I don't see why they can't press more often or just play solid defense on a consistent basis. We do have quality one-on-one defenders in Lee, Harris, TWill, SWAT and even Hassel. Remember even during their 18 game losing streak, it was DEFENSE that kept the games close. The offense can really open up with good defense in the form of more fast breaks and the like. I think that although it is beneficial for the Nets to improve their offensive efficiency, they can’t slack off on their defense. That’s the only way they can learn to win in the future. Sure the increased offense is great but ultimately the Nets need defense to be a great team in the future. With their current athleticism, I don’t see why they can’t press more often or just play solid defense on a consistent basis. We do have quality one-on-one defenders in Lee, Harris, TWill, SWAT and even Hassel. Remember even during their 18 game losing streak, it was DEFENSE that kept the games close. The offense can really open up with good defense in the form of more fast breaks and the like.

]]> By: Kailin http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1544 Kailin Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:47:04 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1544 Does anybody adjust the offensive efficiency statistics to account who they are playing against? For instance, one could take the offensive efficiency for a particular game and divide it by the season to date defensive efficiency of the opposing team. This way you get a feel for how well they do against the team versus other opponents who have played the team. Does anybody adjust the offensive efficiency statistics to account who they are playing against? For instance, one could take the offensive efficiency for a particular game and divide it by the season to date defensive efficiency of the opposing team. This way you get a feel for how well they do against the team versus other opponents who have played the team.

]]> By: Kailin http://netsarescorching.com/2009/12/18/looking-at-kikis-style-of-play/#comment-1543 Kailin Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:45:17 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=5746#comment-1543 The team is pushing the pace more under Kiki, but they are not getting good shots. I agree with the notion that they have to attack the basket more as they are not from the perimter at this point. The team is pushing the pace more under Kiki, but they are not getting good shots. I agree with the notion that they have to attack the basket more as they are not from the perimter at this point.

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