Comments on: Can the Nets Tank Something That’s Already Been Tanked? http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked The New Jersey Nets affiliate of the ESPN TrueHoop Network Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:34:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark Wu http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1881 Mark Wu Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:01:30 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1881 @Greg The historical results would beg to differ. @Jordan John Wall is the uncontested, unchallenged number one pick. No one even comes close to him. It would take a career anding injury for him not to be a lock for the top pick. How many other top picks in the past can say that? He is a lock to be a multiple time all star. No one else in the draft is a lock to transform a team. Good players sure, but franchise cornerstones, not yet. There's a big difference between superstar and good player, and you very well know the nets need that. A 3-35 team needs that. @Greg

The historical results would beg to differ.

@Jordan

John Wall is the uncontested, unchallenged number one pick. No one even comes close to him. It would take a career anding injury for him not to be a lock for the top pick. How many other top picks in the past can say that? He is a lock to be a multiple time all star. No one else in the draft is a lock to transform a team. Good players sure, but franchise cornerstones, not yet. There’s a big difference between superstar and good player, and you very well know the nets need that. A 3-35 team needs that.

]]> By: Jordan http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1880 Jordan Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:50:40 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1880 "A guaranteed top four pick is meaningless when there’s only so far one surefire guaranteed superstar in this draft." Meaningless? Okay, i'm officially ignoring you. "Similarly the fact that the worst team has NOT gotten it in the past has no affect on having the best odds to get it this year." I said it could very well happen. It is not a certainty. “A guaranteed top four pick is meaningless when there’s only so far one surefire guaranteed superstar in this draft.”

Meaningless? Okay, i’m officially ignoring you.

“Similarly the fact that the worst team has NOT gotten it in the past has no affect on having the best odds to get it this year.”

I said it could very well happen. It is not a certainty.

]]> By: Greg http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1879 Greg Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:15:39 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1879 Similarly the fact that the worst team has NOT gotten it in the past has no affect on having the best odds to get it this year. Obviously the worst record in the NBA has a better chance of drafting Wall than anyone else. That's mathmatics. 25% is better than anything less than 25%. Similarly the fact that the worst team has NOT gotten it in the past has no affect on having the best odds to get it this year. Obviously the worst record in the NBA has a better chance of drafting Wall than anyone else. That’s mathmatics. 25% is better than anything less than 25%.

]]> By: Mark Wu http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1878 Mark Wu Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:26:21 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1878 A guaranteed top four pick is meaningless when there's only so far one surefire guaranteed superstar in this draft. Others could emerge but as of now, only Wall is a lock to be a multiple all star selection. And last time I checked, statistical probabilities from year to year are independent from each other. The results from the past cannot affect the chances this year, just because the one with the worst record has not gotten it for a while doesn't mean it has a greater chance of happening this year. Pot calling the kettle black? A guaranteed top four pick is meaningless when there’s only so far one surefire guaranteed superstar in this draft. Others could emerge but as of now, only Wall is a lock to be a multiple all star selection.

And last time I checked, statistical probabilities from year to year are independent from each other. The results from the past cannot affect the chances this year, just because the one with the worst record has not gotten it for a while doesn’t mean it has a greater chance of happening this year.

Pot calling the kettle black?

]]> By: Jordan http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1877 Jordan Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:54:14 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1877 "Yeah but the statistical chances on paper very rarely translate to real life." Are you a Knicks fan? No (smart) Nets fan would complain about a guaranteed top four pick. And, BTW, the team with the worst record is very much due to get a #1 pick. It could very well happen to the Nets this year. “Yeah but the statistical chances on paper very rarely translate to real life.”

Are you a Knicks fan? No (smart) Nets fan would complain about a guaranteed top four pick.

And, BTW, the team with the worst record is very much due to get a #1 pick. It could very well happen to the Nets this year.

]]> By: mike http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1876 mike Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:28:10 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1876 I'm glad we're going to re-tool our bench. Our "veterans" don't help us win. Battie, Hassell, Simmons, and Boone haven't done much of anything. I don't know how much Humphries is going to contribute but he can't be worse than Boone or Najera. Shawne Williams can't be worse than Hassell or Simmons. Whatever we do to re-tool our bench, it can't make us worse. Normally when teams tank, they lose 15-20 games. I'd be perfectly fine witht that number sadly. I’m glad we’re going to re-tool our bench. Our “veterans” don’t help us win. Battie, Hassell, Simmons, and Boone haven’t done much of anything. I don’t know how much Humphries is going to contribute but he can’t be worse than Boone or Najera. Shawne Williams can’t be worse than Hassell or Simmons. Whatever we do to re-tool our bench, it can’t make us worse. Normally when teams tank, they lose 15-20 games. I’d be perfectly fine witht that number sadly.

]]> By: DJ HeavyDuty http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1875 DJ HeavyDuty Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:30:15 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1875 TMAC is a no DH could be traded for a younger PG like mike Conley and rudy gay. Lee has to go to another team or to the bench CDR is a diamond in the rough. If he gets traded he will end up being a star TMAC is a no
DH could be traded for a younger PG like mike Conley and rudy gay.
Lee has to go to another team or to the bench
CDR is a diamond in the rough. If he gets traded he will end up being a star

]]> By: Will http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1874 Will Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:39:26 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1874 What about T-Mac? I know a dumb suggestion, but why not? His contract expires and why wouldn't the Rockets want some expiring contracts (Simmons/Battie) and young talent(CDR or LEE or T-will)? Surely at least one of these swingmen is expendable while not destroying the future. What about T-Mac? I know a dumb suggestion, but why not? His contract expires and why wouldn’t the Rockets want some expiring contracts (Simmons/Battie) and young talent(CDR or LEE or T-will)? Surely at least one of these swingmen is expendable while not destroying the future.

]]> By: calling all toasters http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1873 calling all toasters Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:32:17 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1873 Some random points: Why would they trade Devin if they don't have Wall locked up? The 2 through 4 prospects ain't PGs. Remember all that stuff about "they have a center and a point guard, the 2 hardest spots to fill"? Well, would they go with Keyon and TWill at the point? How could they possibly get better by doing that? They have more usable bodies at the 3 and the 4 than anywhere else. I would expect CD-R and/or CLee to be brought up in trade talks a lot. I'm OK with that-- not everyone on the team has to be young. If you're going to have veteran leadership, make sure that the veteran is one of your better players. It's a hard needle to thread, raising your win total this year while not mortgaging your future. You basically have to win the trade. Some random points:

Why would they trade Devin if they don’t have Wall locked up? The 2 through 4 prospects ain’t PGs. Remember all that stuff about “they have a center and a point guard, the 2 hardest spots to fill”? Well, would they go with Keyon and TWill at the point? How could they possibly get better by doing that?

They have more usable bodies at the 3 and the 4 than anywhere else. I would expect CD-R and/or CLee to be brought up in trade talks a lot. I’m OK with that– not everyone on the team has to be young.

If you’re going to have veteran leadership, make sure that the veteran is one of your better players.

It’s a hard needle to thread, raising your win total this year while not mortgaging your future. You basically have to win the trade.

]]> By: DJ HeavyDuty http://netsarescorching.com/2010/01/12/can-the-nets-tank-something-thats-already-been-tanked/#comment-1872 DJ HeavyDuty Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:16:56 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=6488#comment-1872 This mess we call the Nets may actually be a blessing in disguise. The early season injuries are partly to blame,so is coach and also management but there is always a silver lining. The Nets could trade for Bosh or Boozer right now and neither would could get this team to 30 wins, and ensure a top 10 pick or John Wall. The Nets have tons of 2nd round picks to use along with expiring contracts to offer other teams that want something for their big free agent that won't re sign. Bosh, Boozer, Amare could move any day, and maybe to NJ This mess we call the Nets may actually be a blessing in disguise. The early season injuries are partly to blame,so is coach and also management but there is always a silver lining.
The Nets could trade for Bosh or Boozer right now and neither would could get this team to 30 wins, and ensure a top 10 pick or John Wall.
The Nets have tons of 2nd round picks to use along with expiring contracts to offer other teams that want something for their big free agent that won’t re sign.
Bosh, Boozer, Amare could move any day, and maybe to NJ

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