Comments on: Why Are We Drawn to CDR? http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets affiliate of the ESPN TrueHoop Network Fri, 25 May 2012 16:13:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Raymond Pease http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2547 Raymond Pease Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:15:22 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2547 good site! good site!

]]> By: NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Game 57 Preview Vs. Portland Trailblazers http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2546 NetsAreScorching – New Jersey Nets Blog – Nets News, Rumors, Analysis, Podcasts, Salaries, & Statistics » Blog Archive » Game 57 Preview Vs. Portland Trailblazers Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:32:26 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2546 [...] funny, the day Mark decides to talk about CDR and why everyone continues to discuss him, Hayes is going to be out and CDR is being talked about everyone again.  According to Dave D, [...] [...] funny, the day Mark decides to talk about CDR and why everyone continues to discuss him, Hayes is going to be out and CDR is being talked about everyone again.  According to Dave D, [...]

]]> By: Memphis Slim http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2545 Memphis Slim Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:27:17 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2545 Mark, I'll take your bet on whether CDR is in the NBA a year from now -- or even years from now. Don't you feel it a little strange that other coaches (including Lawrence Frank, recently) identify CDR as a talented and dedicated player? Other NBA players commend his game and encourage him to keep on developing and improving (Stackhouse,recently, Kobe, LeBron)? For you, it's what-have-you-done-for-me-lately I presume. Well, given the chance (and I mean a REAL chance here with minutes and touches) I think you will see the CDR whom his fans know and appreciate. Meantime, I'll still take your bet about CDR's NBA longevity, even if it's not with the Nets. Mark,

I’ll take your bet on whether CDR is in the NBA a year from now — or even years from now.

Don’t you feel it a little strange that other coaches (including Lawrence Frank, recently) identify CDR as a talented and dedicated player? Other NBA players commend his game and encourage him to keep on developing and improving (Stackhouse,recently, Kobe, LeBron)?

For you, it’s what-have-you-done-for-me-lately I presume. Well, given the chance (and I mean a REAL chance here with minutes and touches) I think you will see the CDR whom his fans know and appreciate.

Meantime, I’ll still take your bet about CDR’s NBA longevity, even if it’s not with the Nets.

]]> By: The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring the impact of a touch | Stacheketball, an NBA Blog http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2544 The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring the impact of a touch | Stacheketball, an NBA Blog Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:44:23 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2544 [...] The Horseshoe: Mark Ginocchio looks into why he and Sebastian Pruiti show so much support to Chris Douglas-Roberts. [Nets Are Scorching] [...] [...] The Horseshoe: Mark Ginocchio looks into why he and Sebastian Pruiti show so much support to Chris Douglas-Roberts. [Nets Are Scorching] [...]

]]> By: johnny http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2543 johnny Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:34:45 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2543 Kiki and Yi are just terrible. As long as those two are featured, the Nets set up for failure. We can sit here and argue about every player on this roster about their play this season. I do believe the team as a whole minus Yi, are really starting to get it. It's very tough to win in this league already, but its even tougher when the team has no structure and is playing handicapped each and every night. Kiki is a fool. To play Yi 30+ minutes a night and CDR 0 mins is a recipe for disaster. Kiki could care less about winning. To win, you put your players in the best position, so that they can succeed. There is obvious chemistry issues because of Yi. You can just look on the player's faces, but because they are professionals they have to keep playing. In my opinion, start devo, lee, t-will, hump and brook. CDR six man at the 2 position. As a team we play bad/ soft defense and we dont score enough. T-will and hump will help on the tough defensive aspect. Actually, benching Yi period will help with that. Also, giving a hard working offensive player in CDR minutes, could possibly help with the offense, possibly. In addition i believe T-will can benifit from playing next to those guys. He will create open 3's for lee and he can throw lobs or dump it off to guys like, brook and hump because they can catch and finish unlike Yi. Kiki and Yi are just terrible. As long as those two are featured, the Nets set up for failure. We can sit here and argue about every player on this roster about their play this season. I do believe the team as a whole minus Yi, are really starting to get it. It’s very tough to win in this league already, but its even tougher when the team has no structure and is playing handicapped each and every night. Kiki is a fool. To play Yi 30+ minutes a night and CDR 0 mins is a recipe for disaster. Kiki could care less about winning. To win, you put your players in the best position, so that they can succeed. There is obvious chemistry issues because of Yi. You can just look on the player’s faces, but because they are professionals they have to keep playing. In my opinion, start devo, lee, t-will, hump and brook. CDR six man at the 2 position. As a team we play bad/ soft defense and we dont score enough. T-will and hump will help on the tough defensive aspect. Actually, benching Yi period will help with that. Also, giving a hard working offensive player in CDR minutes, could possibly help with the offense, possibly. In addition i believe T-will can benifit from playing next to those guys. He will create open 3′s for lee and he can throw lobs or dump it off to guys like, brook and hump because they can catch and finish unlike Yi.

]]> By: calling all toasters http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2542 calling all toasters Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:28:19 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2542 The heart of it is this: Kiki doesn't seem to care about getting *any* wins this year, and CD-R cares a lot. Kiki has stayed as the coach, and CD-R is ticked off and demoralized as a result. Trade him to a team that cares about winning (i.e. the other 29, now that Isiah is out at the Knicks) and he'll be lighting us up for years to come. And I'm not sure I'll be rooting against him. This team has a President who only has his job because the Commissioner likes him, a coach who is both incompetent and unwilling, and no functional GM. Their best basketball mind spends his days as an announcer. It is ridiculous to make judgments about the what certain players can and cannot do until this craphole of a front office is cleared out and replaced with people who know how to lead a team and evaluate talent. The heart of it is this: Kiki doesn’t seem to care about getting *any* wins this year, and CD-R cares a lot. Kiki has stayed as the coach, and CD-R is ticked off and demoralized as a result. Trade him to a team that cares about winning (i.e. the other 29, now that Isiah is out at the Knicks) and he’ll be lighting us up for years to come. And I’m not sure I’ll be rooting against him.
This team has a President who only has his job because the Commissioner likes him, a coach who is both incompetent and unwilling, and no functional GM. Their best basketball mind spends his days as an announcer. It is ridiculous to make judgments about the what certain players can and cannot do until this craphole of a front office is cleared out and replaced with people who know how to lead a team and evaluate talent.

]]> By: kerrykibblesandbits http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2541 kerrykibblesandbits Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:20:41 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2541 Gotta agree with the last poster. If you watch CDR during the games, he seems disinterested at best on the defensive end. Whatever it was that cost him his minutes, he would benefit from showing a little more effort in a facet of the game that the Nets are terrible at. As far as his involvement in Twitter, blogs, radio... I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up on this thread to write a response (not a good thing). Access to players has changed by leaps and bounds, but having a guy buried on the bench constantly making pronouncements to a following of thousands puts you in a negative light to the franchise. Teams spend a lot of money carefully crafting and controlling their PR, only to be blindsided when a player makes a controversial statement on Twitter. Gotta agree with the last poster. If you watch CDR during the games, he seems disinterested at best on the defensive end. Whatever it was that cost him his minutes, he would benefit from showing a little more effort in a facet of the game that the Nets are terrible at.

As far as his involvement in Twitter, blogs, radio… I wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up on this thread to write a response (not a good thing). Access to players has changed by leaps and bounds, but having a guy buried on the bench constantly making pronouncements to a following of thousands puts you in a negative light to the franchise. Teams spend a lot of money carefully crafting and controlling their PR, only to be blindsided when a player makes a controversial statement on Twitter.

]]> By: Mark Wu http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2540 Mark Wu Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:51:23 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2540 That's the entire CDR defense, the Kiki conspiracy theory. Just like how Frank had a vendetta against Sean Williams? Can we get Kiki in custody for 9/11 too? Then, it's gonna be a rift between David Stern and Kiki when we don't get the number one pick. David Kahn put their envelope in the freezer. And if Kiki loved Yi so much, why would he yank him from the game last time when he did stupid things? And maybe, just maybe, Lee earns the favor of the coaches because he plays defense That’s the entire CDR defense, the Kiki conspiracy theory. Just like how Frank had a vendetta against Sean Williams? Can we get Kiki in custody for 9/11 too? Then, it’s gonna be a rift between David Stern and Kiki when we don’t get the number one pick. David Kahn put their envelope in the freezer. And if Kiki loved Yi so much, why would he yank him from the game last time when he did stupid things? And maybe, just maybe, Lee earns the favor of the coaches because he plays defense

]]> By: Mark Ginocchio http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2539 Mark Ginocchio Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:11:28 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2539 I just don't fully buy into the logic Andres. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely issues between Kiki and CDR from my viewpoint, if CDR kept producing like he did in November in Kiki's system, Kiki the GM would look like a genius for grabbing this guy in the 2nd round and paying him next to nothing in salary for 17 ppg. If Kiki is going to push Yi and Courtney to justify his trades and make himself look good, he should hypothetically do the same with CDR. Personally, I think Kiki is an old-school guy and as a former player, probably just doesn't like a guy like CDR who uses a ton of different mediums (blogs, twitter, radio) to promote himself. I'm not saying this is fair or not, but I can see a guy like Kiki say CDR isn't "focused" because he's got too many personal projects going on away from his basketball team. Just a guess. I just don’t fully buy into the logic Andres. Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely issues between Kiki and CDR from my viewpoint, if CDR kept producing like he did in November in Kiki’s system, Kiki the GM would look like a genius for grabbing this guy in the 2nd round and paying him next to nothing in salary for 17 ppg. If Kiki is going to push Yi and Courtney to justify his trades and make himself look good, he should hypothetically do the same with CDR.

Personally, I think Kiki is an old-school guy and as a former player, probably just doesn’t like a guy like CDR who uses a ton of different mediums (blogs, twitter, radio) to promote himself. I’m not saying this is fair or not, but I can see a guy like Kiki say CDR isn’t “focused” because he’s got too many personal projects going on away from his basketball team. Just a guess.

]]> By: andres http://netsarescorching.com/2010/02/23/why-are-we-drawn-to-cdr/#comment-2538 andres Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:53:39 +0000 http://netsarescorching.com/?p=7502#comment-2538 CD-R was a 2nd rounder, Kiki doesn't care that much about him, on the other hand Lee and Yi are the guy this moron traded our star players for (I actually think getting a prospect like Yi while getting rid of RJ was a good move). Both Yi and Lee are Kiki's pet project. He wants to look like a genius. He will give them every chance to fail. They'll keep been given PT and starting roles, whether they produce or not. I actually don't dislike them, but it's obvious they both get special treatment from Kiki. Hayes is a fave of his too, always has been, and Kiki's is close friends with his agent. That guy doesn't deserve to start, period. CD-R has shown far more than either Yi or Lee, yet hasn't been given the same opportunities (by Kiki, that's it). CD-R goes through a bad stretch during which he doesn't produce as much (thanks to Kiki's agenda), and they take him not only out of the starting 5, but of the rotation too. Come on. CD-R was a 2nd rounder, Kiki doesn’t care that much about him, on the other hand Lee and Yi are the guy this moron traded our star players for (I actually think getting a prospect like Yi while getting rid of RJ was a good move).

Both Yi and Lee are Kiki’s pet project. He wants to look like a genius. He will give them every chance to fail. They’ll keep been given PT and starting roles, whether they produce or not. I actually don’t dislike them, but it’s obvious they both get special treatment from Kiki. Hayes is a fave of his too, always has been, and Kiki’s is close friends with his agent. That guy doesn’t deserve to start, period.

CD-R has shown far more than either Yi or Lee, yet hasn’t been given the same opportunities (by Kiki, that’s it). CD-R goes through a bad stretch during which he doesn’t produce as much (thanks to Kiki’s agenda), and they take him not only out of the starting 5, but of the rotation too. Come on.

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