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Trading For A Core Player: Danny Granger

There has been some talk recently of the New Jersey Nets needing a core player in order for them to take “it” to another level.  Of course, this all came about  because of the likely availability of Chris Paul and no matter what he and the New Orleans Hornets say or don’t say, there are still rumors milling about that Paul can still be traded.  Another reason for this talk of a core player for the Nets is Carmelo Anthony, who has until June 30, 2011 to accept a contract extension offered by the Denver Nuggets, which he still hasn’t accepted and hence the possibility that he could be traded at the NBA trade deadline.  However, two things should be said: 1) my NAS colleagues will be talking about the aforementioned duo of Paul and Anthony and 2) while Brook Lopez is a core player, like most successful teams, another superstar-type of player/talent is needed to elevate a team.  Today, we’ll take a look at Indiana Pacers forward, Danny Granger.

Thanks to ESPN’s awesome Trade Machine feature, we see that the rumored deal that hovered around NBA Draft day (Devin Harris and Granger being the primary pieces) can happen straight up.  The earlier rumor actually had Harris, Yi Jianlian, and the third overall pick going to the Indiana Pacers with Granger and the tenth overall pick coming back to the Nets.  Obviously that can’t happen now and all indications point to Derrick Favors not being a part of any trade, particularly this one.  So, would the Pacers do a straight-up trade?  Probably not.

So, what else to do except add some draft picks to the package.  The Nets will have 10 picks in the next three drafts and with the Pacers having several players coming off the books after the 2010-11 season, including big money contracts – Mike Dunleavy, Jr. ($10.6 million), T.J. Ford ($8.5 million), and Troy Murphy ($12 million) – they can use the picks.  Currently, the Pacers have a $68.5 million, which is $10.5 million over the salary cap.  Trading Granger for Harris will do two things for the Pacers – give them the point guard they need (sorry, Mr. Ford) and slash about $2 million off their cap.  So, Harris and a couple of draft picks for Granger might be good enough to get the deal done.

Now, the question is – would Danny Granger be that core player that brings the Nets to the ubiquitous “next level”?

While he obviously hasn’t led the Pacers to glory, you can blame that on his teammates, injury (both to him and them), and a seeming lack of talent/chemistry.  On a Nets team that already has one core player in Lopez, a great (wild card) piece in Terrence Williams, youngsters with upside that can fill an immediate role in both Damion James and Derrick Favors, and role players such as Anthony Morrow, and the Nets seem to have a lot of pieces in place.  Would Granger make a difference?  Most definitely… and even ESPN’s NBA Trade Machine agrees as it projects the team would win four more games with Granger.

However, there are concerns as someone would need to take up the mantle of starting point guard for the team.  Can Jordan Farmar actually make the best of the shot he’s always wanted?  Possibly.  Would the Nets try out T-Will at the one and hope for the best?  Possibly.  However, while no one would match the effect and production of Devin Harris, at least the Nets have solid options.  Another question that pops up immediately is Granger’s durability.  After playing in 78, 82, and 80 games in his first three seasons, he’s only played in 67 and 62 games since, respectively.  Yet, when he’s played, he’s performed like one of the top ten players in the league.

Check the stats in the last two seasons:

2008-09: 67 G; 25.8 PPG; 5.1 RPG; 2.7 APG; 2.7 3PTM; 44.7 FG%; 87.8 FT%; 1.0 SPG; 1.5 BPG; 21.8 PER

2009-10: 62 G; 24.2 PPG; 5.5 RPG; 2.8 APG; 2.6 3PTM; 42.8 FG%; 84.8 FT%; 1.5 SPG; 0.8 BPG; 19.8 PER

Do you think the Nets could use those numbers?  Of course they could.  A small concern would be his shooting from the field, but there’s always a trade-off with players, right?  Is it realistic that this trade goes down?  It’s probably slim since the Pacers would probably ask for Favors to take up the spot Granger would leave open.  And, they’ll have a ton of contracts that expire after this season and could probably wait until the NBA trading deadline to acquire younger and cheaper assets.

Also, I think it’s too soon to trade Harris without seeing if he can become an All-Star point guard now that he’s reunited with Avery Johnson.  Yes, Harris became an All-Star with the Nets and not the Dallas Mavericks, but Johnson helped develop Harris during their time with the Mavs and he could help elevate Harris’ game once again.  Unless the Nets can acquire CP3, Harris probably stays and relative to this post, Granger stays put as well.

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what ever the nets do keep favors and lopez

granger's shooting percentage is in the low 40's. that worries me.

who knows jordan farmer can be a good point gaurd while twill can finally be on the team without trade talks because he can be a back up

Nope to Granger.What about Favors?

Why would the Indiana wanna trade Granger if he's that good?

Sorry, but I would gladly trade Harris & a couple of draft picks for Granger.
Granger would be an immediate upgrade in our offense and let Farmar & TWill battle it out in training camp for the starting PG postion.
Both of them distribute the ball 100x better than Harris.

right now i dont make a trade for granger or cp3 at the trade deadline i might consider outlaw, humphries, quinton ross, ben uzoh n a couple of picks for granger but that probably wont happen n it shouldnt in my opinion. the nets are not winning any championship this year for sure but i do think if everything works out right they end up with 36-44 wins. That leaves them with the 10-16th pick in the draft. I think they have 2 second rounders this year. They should draft a reliable PF with their first round pick n get a couple of good role playing forwards/guards in the 2nd round. Dont resign humphries or ross. That leaves you with a good 19 mil to spend in free agency. I only see carmelo going to new york or orlando if CP3 goes there which is a good possibility but really i see the hornets not trading paul til the 11-12 season. N if melo becomes a free agent that means he probably got no interest in denver that levels down his choices to chicago n new jersey soon to be Brooklyn. on one side u got rose n boozer on the other harris n lopez. Personally i think the nets have a lot more depth than the bulls n thats being said when i think the bulls have great depth. The nets got one of the top 3 point shooters in the game. 2 guys who could be future all stars in twill n favors. 2 very good defensive roll players in james n lee. along with farmar, petro, zoubek n their future picks. right now the nets should stick with what they got if they trade harris now i dont see them winning a championship with a sub par point guard unless that team is named the lakers. Sign melo n trade outlaw for more future 2nd rounders in the future offseason. after the melo signing the nets still have 10 mil UNDER the cap to sign their picks and give an extension to Brook. Picture harris healthy and develops into a better Defensive player and passer along with a still young Brook Lopez as one of the top 3 centers in the game along with one of the top 5 scorers in the game in melo. If they make that happen expect a championship their first year in brooklyn. Its the blueprint for greatness baby

I agree with Gabe. In fact, if I remember correctly, T-Will did improve on his shooting towards the last half of the season. The difference between good players and poor players is that a good player does what he's good at, while a poor player does things that he's bad at, and keeps doing them. Superstars can usually do everything well. Mere mortals usually have weaknesses. Humphries is the perfect example of this. He wants to be a jump shooting scorer. That is not his strong suit. Stick to rebounding, defense and put backs. Once in a while you can take a jumper, but you better be ahead by 10 points in the game.

The Nets shouldn't be desperate to trade for anybody who's happens to be available at this point. It reminds me of when they were offering any free agent who was a PF a lucrative contract as long as they would say yes. Thankfully they all said no. If the deal makes sense do it otherwise just say no. Wait for the right deal even if it takes all year.It will come...

@TT, learning how to shoot is a lot easier for a player like Terrence Williams than learning a skill like creating offense for other players. Dwyane Wade couldn't/can't shoot, does that mean Wade is ineffective? Jason Kidd couldn't shoot for most of his career--but he put in time and confidence into his shot and has been one of the leagues best shooters the last few season. So don't spew nonsense of how Terrence Williams cant shoot and how ridiculous it is that the rest of us could possibly see anything worth while in him. I dont think he will be an Allstar (any time soon). I dont think Terrence Williams is the next DWade. But I do see that he has value. He is a very good ball player. Most importantly, shooting can be learned, but playmaking, can not be.
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Williams is close to a complete player even so with his inconsistent shot. He would be unstoppable if/once he develops a great shooting stroke. Also, Terrence Williams' rookie numbers are negatively skewed from his poor first half of the season. He isn't even nearly as bad as you are suggesting-- ahem, cough-- TT.
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That said, has anyone noticed the pendulum of love vs hate or pro-trade vs anti-trade from contributors on this site for players this summer. We have no more evidence/information about a players abilities as we did since the regular season ended (summer league is hardly a decent sample) yet every week a new article is posted and the comments are either easily swayed by an article's spin, or contributors are as wishy washy as politicians. No Terrence WIlliams is not going to the savior... but on the other end of the spectrum, he is by no means a terrible player because someone is suggesting he cannot shoot (which is one of the easier skills to refine). This applies to other players too. Lets stop all the superlatives and that type of thinking. There are always many variables to consider before judging someone as invaluable because he cannot do "one" thing great.

Thats all, im finished.

Look, the Nets missed their opportunity to have Granger when they drafted Antoine Wright. It's funny because Granger is probably more capable at playing shooting guard than Wright is (shooting guard--this is what the Nets needed and WHY they drafted Wright over Granger... ugh)
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Coming back 6 or 7 years (however long ago that was) and constructing trades for the often injured Granger seems asinine. He should have been ours for free. It's hard to justify giving anything up for him now.

i'm from indy and there is no way we do that trade.

i just dont understand this sites infatuation with terrence williams!!

even his college coach ,pitino,told a mutual friend that he cant shoot the ball!!

any team that counts on a multpositional player who cant shoot is in deep sh--!

although it is NICE to be an eternal optonist--there is reality!!
people i know who work for the nets realize this will be another bad season UNLESS a MAJOR trade occurs!!

you can talk about different alignments of the current group they have--it just wont matter-they are just bad!!

in terms of t will again-my guess is they put the ball in his hands alot in summer league play to showcase him to other teams!!

We'd probably be getting slightly more talent than we'd receive, but on the whole such a trade makes no sense. We now have 4, count 'em 4, SFs if we count TWill there. I know Avery says he sees TWill as a combo guard, but I'm hoping that he's changed his mind since Summer League. Granger would make 5. I guess we could give Outlaw and DJames time at the 4, if we stopped caring about interior defense.

Yeah, if we get CP3, pull the trigger on this too. Then send Outlaw plus a pick to any team that will take him. Of course, we're not getting CP3.

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