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Trading For A Core Player: Chris Paul

For a while now, Hornets point guard Chris Paul has reportedly wanted out of New Orleans. There have been at least a half-dozen rumors connecting him to different teams, including the Knicks, Lakers, Magic, Trail Blazers, Mavericks, Bobcats, and the Nets. Ryan Schwan of Hornets 24/7 played GM for a recent article, one in which he took offers from other TrueHoop team writers for Chris Paul and sorted through the potential options from worst to best. I had an opportunity to construct an offer for him, but I decided against it for a reason that may actually shock you: I don’t think the Nets should seriously pursue him.

This is no knock on Chris Paul the basketball player. There’s not much to say about him that hasn’t been said already, but for our relatively green readers: when Chris Paul is healthy, he’s the best point guard in the world. Save some Deron Williams die-hards – who have a legitimate argument – nobody questions that. He can score from everywhere on the floor, his court vision is unbelievable, his lateral quickness and hands are among the best in the league, and in the past couple of years he’s begun to develop a three-point shot. He had started to become virtually unstoppable. He’s also one of my favorite players ever – I love his tenacity and indomitable will to stay on the basketball court, which has even reduced him to pleading.

2007-2008: 20.2 PTS, 11.1 AST, 3.8 REB, 2.6 STL, 2.4 TOV, .576 TS%, 28.3 PER, 125 points produced per 100 possessions
2008-2009: 21.4 PTS, 10.3 AST, 5.2 REB, 2.6 STL, 2.8 TOV, .599 TS%, 30.0 PER, 124 points produced per 100 possessions

I don’t know if showing the numbers truly explains just how impressive they actually are. If you adjust his production for context, in a purely statistical sense this is the best two-year run by a point guard in NBA history. Ever. Statistically better than Magic, better than Oscar, better than Stockton, Kidd, or Isaiah. While advanced statistics only tell part of the story, there’s no doubt that Chris Paul was on track to be one of the greatest point guards to ever call a play on hardwood.

I know I’ve been gushing over Chris Paul’s ability, which seems weird after saying that I don’t want the Nets to attempt to acquire him. I have four reasons for this. Firstly, that Chris Paul may not exist anymore.  If you’ve noticed, I’ve been using the past tense to discuss Chris Paul. This is because (as many of you know) Paul recently underwent knee surgery, where his meniscus was completely removed rather than repaired. If you’ve been made aware of that, you’ve also probably been directed to Will Leitch‘s article on meniscus removal. The key part, now famous thanks to Bill Simmons’s trade value column, is as follows:

“Surgeons don’t repair the meniscus in most cases; they just take it out, either in part or in whole depending on the size of the tearing. That leaves the athlete with no shock. Eventually, with the remaining meniscus overstressed and aging, they end up with the bones grinding together. Yes, that’s as bad as it sounds in a game of running and jumping.”

For a guard that relies as much on his lateral quickness as he does, it’s a huge, huge red flag. Is it possible that Paul doesn’t feel any ill effects from the surgery, that he’s just one of those genetic freaks that can come back and perform at the same level or better? Sure. Would it be worth the risk to find out? I don’t think so, and I hope the Nets don’t, either.

Secondly, the Nets don’t really have an offer that the Hornets would accept. Take a look at the realistic offers that were given to Schwan. Monroe, Daye, Stuckey, Prince, Wilcox, and three picks? Carter, Nelson, Gortat, Bass/Anderson, and two picks? Holiday, Iguodala, Speights, Kapono, and Young? Parker, Splitter, McDyess, and two picks? Oden, Przybilla, Miller, Fernandez, and Bayless? I know that as a Nets writer (and fan) I have the tendency to overrate my own players, and I still don’t think that a deal of Harris/Humphries/Lee-TWill/picks can compete with those. Couple that with the reports that the Nets consider Derrick Favors a keeper, rather than a chip (shameless plug: keep an eye out for my second video analysis dissecting Derrick Favors’s offensive potential next week), and the chances of acquiring Paul begin dwindling quickly.

Thirdly, he’s most likely a two-year rental. Say the miracle happens, and the Nets find a way to acquire Chris Paul. Then what? He’s under contract until 2012, and after that I highly doubt he would end up re-signing with the Nets. New Orleans has showered him with love and praise his entire career and he still wants out. The Nets are fresh off a seventy-loss season and while the team has a bright future a championship in two years seems unlikely, especially if some combination of Terrence Williams, Derrick Favors, or Courtney Lee goes the other way. The Nets can’t expect that he’ll stick around after two years, and if he bolts they’re left with nothing to show for the deal. It doesn’t make sense to mortgage the future for an impressive but likely non-contending present.

Which leads into my fourth and final point… He doesn’t turn the Nets into a championship contender. The five-year plan has been laid out clearly by Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov, and adding Chris Paul doesn’t move the Nets into championship contention in that five-year frame. Even if he’s playing at his top level, a Paul+Lee+Outlaw+Favors+Lopez (or Okafor, depending on if we’re forced to take his salary on in a deal) is a great team, but it isn’t going to compete with the Heat, Magic, Lakers, or Celtics in 2011 or 2012. As mentioned earlier, we’ll go through two years of playing pretty good basketball until Paul leaves us for greener pastures. It just doesn’t seem worth it to me.

Truth be told, the only way I’d want the Nets to do a Chris Paul deal is if they accept much less than most other teams seemingly want to offer. The deal outlined at the beginning of this article is one potential offer, and is what I’d consider the starting point for any deal the Nets may do – adding Quinton Ross, taking on Okafor’s contract, throwing picks into the deal, or switching out Williams with Lee are some other possibilities.

That deal is, of course, well below Paul’s perceived market value. But considering the potential risks and rewards that are involved, I would hope the Nets go above and beyond when doing their due diligence. Unless the Hornets essentially give him to New Jersey, I don’t see the Nets taking the plunge – and while it may sting to hear, it may be for the best.

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a good starting lineup for 2010

PG Devin Harris
SG TWill/CLee
SF Outlaw
PF Humphries/Favors
C Lopez

@fro I agree it never feels as good when you are expected to win everything like the Heat.

@hbj, in a weird way, I don't WANT any big name stars coming to the Nets? Why? Because I don't want to sell out. I don't want to believe in the Nets simply because they managed to lure an amazing free agent. I got sick of all my buddies who suddenly remembered they were Celtics fans during the summer of 07 and the new Miami HEAT fans of 10. Point being, I like how we will be doing it the legit way. If Brook and Favors becomes a dynamic force down low, we already have one of the best front courts in the Eastern Conf. If we can have dynamic, consistent guard play from TWill, Morrow (outside shooting), and Devo in 3 years that would be the key as well. We have all the right pieces, just time will do the work. I hope for all of our sake that we stay put rather than try to fix what's not necessarily broken.

I agree with Mike as well. Lets roll with what we got.

This is kind of off topic but funny that nets are playing 2 preseason games in China vs rockets. Guess they made the schedule a long time ago!

You guys must stop worrying about other teams and other teams players.
Screw Paul, Anthony, LeBron etc. Lets build our own team, and live and die with that team. Tired of all this B.S. I don't want Paul, Melo or whoever is the favorite flavor of the month. You want to be Miami be Miami. League pass will get you front row seats, or move to Florida.

Proky is the richest owner but that does him no good with a cap.

these NBA players are shallow Proky learned that the hard way this offseason.If this was hockey or even MLB it would be different and the nets would be attracting players

Man, you guys could have talked your way out of trading for J Kidd. oh, he's banged up, he's got off the court problems, he's never won anything. Our run with J-Kidd was the most exciting in Nets history. Paul is the only player in the NBA that is possibly available, that can completely change Nets culture.

@ Mike R- In order to get a great player/scorer via trade, we would have to deplete our team. And then we will still be struggling to make the playoffs. Players dont want to come here because they dont feel they can win here. But if we can do what chicago did last year (show we have a strong supporting cast), then a top player would want to come. Being a star on the nets is going to be a very profitable business move. Not only because of brooklyn, but because of the global exposure Proky will give players- in order to continue to attract other players. If we show that we are a solid team with what we have, then players will jump on our band wagon.

What makes people think Carmelo has any interest in coming to NJ? IMO he has 0 interest in the Nets. All I have ever heard him talk about are Denver and NY. Just bc we can offer a max deal doesn't mean he will come. In fact he has a better financial offer on the table right now from Denver than what they Nets can offer. so why turn down more money from a better team to play for the Nets? What is the sales pitch/attraction? Please dont tell me playing in Brooklyn bc I also think that is going to be a bust/disappointment. Maybe he will just miss playing with Petro! LOL!

i say lets see how this years go then if we need any improvment we get carmelo anthony and nets just hired a great scouting then get someone from the lottery

You mean the same way the Nets got a premier free agent this year in the best free agent class of all time? The problem is right now great players dont want to come to NJ. The only way you're going to get a great player/scorer is via a trade in my opinion. Once the tream is MUCH better, they will be able to attract top players.

We dont need Paul or Granger. We have an all star point guard who is only 27 years old. We have Outlaw (who is about to enter into his prime years), D. James (who looks like he has great potential). The only position we are shaky at right now is PF. Now, if we do upgrade at any other positions, i would rather it be through free agency. Why should we send good young players and draft picks for players we dont need? There is no trade out there for the nets worth making. We need to chill and play out the year what we have. Build this team to be a strong supporting cast for a great scorer we can get through free agency...

Not gunna lie mike, I don't love that trade. I would rather have outlaw/James as our starting sf, than farmar as our starting pg. He will be a good backup pg, not a good starter IMO. I saw nets keep most of their youth with an exception of lee. Trade him for a pf. I personally feel that every Nets stats will improve this year. Outlaw and morrow will be given more oppurtunities. As well as farmar. Harris will have more players to drop dimes to and should be fully healthy. Perimeter shooters should spread the floor for lopez. And t-will is another year older. On another note I personally feel the nets have the best bench in the game. Solid all the way through except maybe backup center and pf.

I say if we trade for anyone... let it be Granger!!! However I do feel that the team is in good shape without any trades ... because the Nets have a solid coaching staff...and it all starts from the top!!!

If the Nets are going to trade Devin I would much prefer for them to get Granger, and sign him to an extention. Then you could potentially be looking at a line-up of:

c - Lopez, Petro
pf - favors, outlaw, james
sf - granger, outlaw, james, twill
sg - twill, morrow, lee
pg - farmer, twill, draft pick

Thats a pretty solid starting unit with a lot of depth if you look out a year or 2. Granted Farmer is a bit of a wild card in this scenario, but he and twill could share the ballhandling duties.

Paul signed an extention last year and after one year is asking out so I am not sure signing an extention even matters. He seems set on trying to set up his own three headed monster to compete with LeBron so I think think the article hits the nail on the head when he said CP3 would be gone after 2 years. He would be a rental who would make the Nets better no doubt, but wouldn't make them a championship caliber team in the next 2 years.

I agree Devin. Grasping for a savior, with a questionable attitude and knee, might not be the wisest move. Only if we get him to sign an extension, then I might consider it. A lot of Nets fans seem desperate. I don't think we need Paul or Carmelo to be a good team. The Hornets and Denver are getting screwed by these so called superstars, just like Cleveland and Toronto did. lets wait for a player that wants to be a Net and the price is right.

That is a GREAT article. I couldn't agree more. Why no one is really talking about Paul's knee is amazing to me. It's all they talked about with Amare Stoudamire and was the main reason I didnt want the Nets to pursue him. Great read. Ty

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