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Who Would You Trade for Carmelo Anthony?

With the Nets constantly being mentioned by the mainstream sports media as a potential landing spot for Carmelo Anthony, the NAS squad is going to take a look over the next week at some of the players who would likely be included in a deal for the All-Star SF.

Would you Trade Devin Harris?

The Case For Trading Devin Harris:

Devin Harris played like and was recognized as an All-Star during the 2008-09 season, but there was a significant drop-off in his performance last season when he became the team’s focal point after the departure of Vince Carter.  His Player Efficiency Rating (PER) dropped from 21.65 to 16.28 and his frailty really became exposed last season when he only played in 64 games due to assorted injuries – his third consecutive season of under 70 games played.  Despite his aggressive style of play on offense, his field goal percentage on shots taken at the rim (53%) was an all-time low for Harris last season, according to hoopdata.com. Harris doesn’t hit enough of his remaining field goals (40% total, 28% from three) for the Nets to survive offensively without him connecting regularly on his drives to the hoop.

And still, despite these flaws, he demonstrated glimpses last year than when healthy, he could play like an All-Star. He averaged 20.3 points and 9.1 assists during the month of February, which were in-line to his final statistics in 2008-09 (21.3 ppg, 6.9 assists). And, as one of the longest-tenured players on the Nets, he makes enough salary ($8.4 million) to help make some of the money in a potential Anthony deal match up – an all too important factor in the NBA.

The Case Against Trading Devin Harris:

With six years of NBA experience, Harris brings veteran savvy to an otherwise inexperienced team of players, and as one of four players still on the roster from last year, he also provides stability and continuity for cornerstones like Brook Lopez and Terrence Williams. And while Jordan Farmar may be a solid back-up, he’s never proven that he could ably fill-in long term in a starting line-up. Unless the Nets could solidify themselves at the PG spot with a subsequent deal, they would be seemingly weakening themselves overall. If part of the reason Anthony wants to leave Denver is because they’re not competitive enough to win a championship, there’s little reason to believe a team with Farmar as the starting PG could compete with the Heat and the Magic in the east.

Meanwhile, because of Harris’ dropoff last season, his trade value has never been lower. Would Denver even want him in a deal for Anthony? Do they have faith that he can regain his all-star form, or will they rule his 08-09 season as a fluke? Perhaps, by being reunited with Avery Johnson, his coach in Dallas, Harris could regain his all-star form and become an attractive trade chip again.

The Final Verdict:

If Harris is the centerpiece in a deal for Carmelo Anthony, you have to do it. While the Nets would have to upgrade at PG at some point, Anthony brings enough on offense, that paired with Brook Lopez, and eventually Derrick Favors, the Nets can end up with their own “Big Three” and all they would need to run the offense is a solid ball distributor who can occasionally knock down a jumper. If the Bulls were able to win in the 90s with John Paxson as the PG, and the Lakers can win two rings in a row with Derek Fisher, then the Nets could win without a sparkplug like Devin Harris, who is still too offensive-minded to effectively run the point anyway.

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look, I would do this the easy way

Nuggets get: Harris, James, and T-will.
by doing this you give the nuggets a point who can run the team, and if plays well could be good mid-season trade bate for younger talent. James has showed glimses, but it was in summer league, so they are getting a fifty fifty on a young foreward ( possibly to replace melo ) t-will would be the center piece of the deal, he brings them a 2 gaurd to build around. plus two or three draft picks.

Nets: Melo, and Kenyon Martin.
In this the nets get the face of the franchise in melo, and an all-star foreward to pair with lopez. then theres k-mart, he brings the nets a hard working veteran who was a center piece of both eastern conference championship teams. he also brings a mentor for favors. this would make the fans pack up the pru.

Dude!!! Lakers and Bulls won with Paxon and Fisher cause they ran the triangle. In the triangle offense you don't need a pass first point guard as much as you need one who can shoot. So those 2 teams are exceptions. To win in this league you need a solid point guard. I mean like when's the last time a team won a championship with a less than stellar point guard? Even Miami had Jason Williams and Gary Payton. As well as Wade who although is a shooting guard, he probably distributes the ball better than both.

Best case scenario for us would be that Carmelo hang tight don't sign an extension and become a FA. We get a chance to see what we have as a team (these guys haven't even practised together yet). We can then go after Carmelo without gutting our team. You are all so for trading Harris..do we have another top 10 PG on our roster(he's currently #8). We don't have Wall, that bus left in June. Some of you talk from two sides of your mouth "build thru the draft" and then "trade your high draft pick (Favors)". What is it? Get real people!

Maybe you guys should consider examining what other teams got in similar situations as their return and then see what the nets should offer.

I'm with mike on this one. i want to see this team develope as is. however food for thought. was it not rumored a few weeks ago jr was on the move? Are the two trying to go somewhere together? Whatever the end result is. Billy King.... PLEASE be patient and reasonable.

Thank you.

@NJINME Troy can be traded right away because he was acquired while the team had the salary cap room to take on his contract, we did not exceed the cap to get him. He doesn't have to wait a month because of that, so if the right move came up tomorrow he could be moved.

Like i said yesterday my first option is to see how this current team does for at least until, maybe,the end of Dec,or the trading deadline in Feb.Denver knows the quicker they trade him the more teams will give up to get Melo,Also i think that the Nets can be patient,because not only can they give Denver the most assets,and they also know that,Melo is not going to sign with those other teams that some of these writers mention, it comes down to two teams the Knicks or the Nets,mark my words,so be patient,because patients is a virtue!

"I’m not hot on Melo..."

You don't have to like Melo, and I (as a Nuggets fan) would like to see him improve on some things. But saying the Nuggets were "stocked to the hilts" and have been nothing but early round exits is a little off. The Nugs don't have a center (Nene is a power forward), always start a backup 2-guard (Dahntay Jones, Arron Afflalo), and their second best scorer is a head case who kills the team as often as he helps it (J.R. Smith). And despite that, they were in the Western Conference Finals two years ago (and were probably 2 bad inbounds passes away from reaching the Finals). Last year their coach was battling cancer, Nene and Birdman had maybe one good leg between them, and the previously mentioned head case basically quit. Prior to that, they were considered the best candidate to knock off the Lakers (in the West). I don't mind legitimate criticism of Melo, but in my opinion he's taken the Nuggets about as far as they should have gone in almost every year he's played in Denver.

I'm not hot on Melo. Nuggets were stocked to the hilts and have been nothing but early round exits. Devin Harris had top-3 PER of all PGs two seasons ago - with an aging VC. I know he can ball at that level, he just needs to apply himself and he's got plenty of reasons staring him down. I see DV responding huge this year. And we can't legally trade most of our assets until at least 3 months into season, so trade options are slim at best.

i think the nuggets really like Lawson so i doubt they would include him in a trade.

We need to stop overvaluing our players - Devin Harris does NOT equal Carmelo Anthony. Billy needs to get this done. Getting Melo gets us one step closer to CP3 and to a championship.

Denver wont let go of Lawson, too good and cheap.

Nuggets fan here. If we trade with NJ and neither Lopez (which I wouldn't expect) or Favors is involved, I think we'll be looking for a new GM again. In my opinion, you shouldn't assume that the Nuggets have no leverage. The worst that can happen (other than making a stupid trade) is that the Nugs don't trade Melo and we end up dropping more than $50 million in salary (Melo, KMart, Smith, Chauncey) going into a new CBA. It will take a while to rebuild, but we'll have the cap space and a few leftover pieces (Lawson, Afflalo, Nene, Harrington, Birdman) to do it. So Melo, who stands to lose many, many millions (potentially) if a trade does not take place, has to consider that possibility when thinking about nixing a trade or limiting the Nuggets' trade options.

Also, of course, potential trading partners will have to compete with the desperation of the Knicks, plus offers from other teams which may or may not include the Clippers, Wolves, Rockets, Hornets, Lakers???, Kings, Warriors, and maybe others.

If NJ (and/or it's fans) don't want to trade Lopez or Favors, I can understand that. But I feel certain that a trade can't happen without one of them. Just adding my two cents. Let me know (gently) what you think.

Harris could be traded if the Nets could get back Lawson.

dont trade harris brook lopez and derrik favors
people to trade outlaw murphy james(hopes doestnt get traded)twill 1st round picks

Why even waste trading good players for carmelo, let him sign somewhere else or become a free agent next year and then offer him a huge contract. I`m positive the chance to play on a team with a solid core (lopez, harris, & the young guys with potential) is much more appealing than playing on one that was gutted in order to get him.

Right, but because Harris is OUR second best player doesnt mean he's THAT great.

Devin Harris is older than Melo, Devin Harris will never come close to being as productive AND Devin Harris WILL NEVER convince any FAs to sign with us.

Melo is a ++ for this organization

Dont trade harris or Lopez. those are the only 2 that i wouldn't trade any one else is fine with me. we cant trade our star for a better star thats what assets are for. u trade ur assets to get great players.

when u look at trades involving big names in the past u never see a team trade their second best player to acquire another teams best player. a team trades picks and young talent and expiring contracts for the star player.

sorry, didnt think it would be that long..I want Melo and Id trade anyone not named Lopez/Favors.

@LJ23 - yes, yes we (or I) do! While I do like the team top to bottom right now (save for Petro and Ross) we DONT have a star right now. Lopez will become one soon, Favors maybe in 3 years. Carmelo IS a stud and he's frickin YOUNG

While I do like the depth we have right now, I wouldnt mind (at all) moving some of it to get a true face of the franchise

We cant miss out on him, seriously.

We just need to convince the Nuggets and Id rather get him now than wait til he gets to FA (if he gets there) and we have to convince him on why us instead of the Rockets, Mavs, Clippers, Bulls, Magic, etc etc etc

While we lose some assets doing this instead of just signing him, it's worth it and whomever we trade would probably be replaceable.

Something to think about - without the Nuggets moving Billups or Lawson I dont see why they take Devin Harris tho a 3 team trade where the Bobcats get Devin Harris+, we get Melo+, the Nuggs get Erick Dampier's expiring contract+picks+ would be a good one for everyone involved

Harris + Favors + picks for Melo should be the last option...
and I won't be happy if that deal happens...
If so...

PG: Farmar/T-Will
SG: Morrow/T-Will
SF: Melo/Outlaw
PF: Murphy/Hump/May
C: Lopez/Petro

If T-Will has a break out season (it's very possible), the lineup would not be bad, too.

Probably, Nets will resign Murphy after this season?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68921/20100831/nets_unwilling_to_offer_lopez_for_melo_as_denver_hears_trade_offers/

@ Mike- I totally agree. I want to see what this current roster can do before we start breaking it up just for one player. I want to ride with the team we have also...

also we have to realize that it no longer is the Nets team it is Carmelo's team the Nets. Do we want that?

The other question that I propose is how well would melo work with Avery? I mean Avery's style is perfect for the team we have now.

why can't we just wait til he a free agent ... miami got two players for nothing in lebron and bosh ... so we should do the samething. it won't hurt us to wait it out one more year anyway then we can keep all our players and be a real good team with melo or whoever we bring in

Okay for Harris as long as we get another PG to back up Farmar. I would not trade Favors or Lopez. I think denver wants to trade Melo before the season because it is going to be a distraction.

I think if the Nets want Carmelo it's going to cost Lopez plus. I can't see Denver doing it any other way. They'd have to ask the question, what do we value more? Carmelo isn't worth Lopez plus and he's sort of a head case, and let's not forget one thing - it's not trading for Carmelo, it's trading for Carmelo and La La.

Troy can't be traded right off. Lopez is untouchable..Favors is your future (he'll most likely still be in the league when Carmelo is retired). Only Harris, Twill, Hump and Ross are realistically available..Harris is injury prone however..There is indication also that Carmelo won't commit to a team stripped down for him. Like Prokhorov he would like to win also not flounder around as an also ran. Carmelo can only help if our major assets are in place. Something else to chew on, Carmelo is best friends with JR. I think Carmelo could be blessing or curse. Want to gamble?

You guys can hope and wait for Carmelo and Chris Paul to show up one day. Training camp will be opening in a few weeks. I'm riding with the guys we have now. Lets go current Nets...

We get to this point with a lot of sacrifice cleaning team/payroll in order to have flexibility to create a contender for a championship. The player to expedite this goal is there (At list one of them). It's time to use flex and assets for our goal.
I will use Troy/ T. Will and both Nets draft picks for next year and equal salaries with some assets. Chris Paul should be the next target using D. Harris. Go for it King!!!

3 team deal without moving Harris...

Nets get: SF Carmelo Anthony, PF DeJuan Blair
Spurs get: PG Chauncey Billups, G/F Quinton Ross, 2012 2nd Rounder from Miami thru NJ
Nuggets get: PH Tony Parker, PF Troy Murphy, PF Kris Humphries, SF Damion James, 2011 1st Rounder from NJ, 2012 1st Rounder from GS thru NJ, 2013 1st Rounder from NJ

Nuggets get all expiring contracts, aside from James, and would still field a competitive team for 2010-11 season, and then potentially have over $50 million in expiring contracts, plus numerous draft picks, and can officially hand over the team to Ty Lawson after Parker departs.

Spurs would upgrade from Parker to Billups for the 2010-11 season, and have the type of team where Chauncey could help make one last run at NBA Championship.

Nets use remaining cap room to take on rest of Anthony's contract not covered by contracts moved, but they are able to keep Harris in the fold. Youngster James, 3 1st Round Picks, and plenty of expiring contracts may not be 80 cents on the dollar, but for this team it would be something you couldnt pass up. Plus acquiring Blair would still keep with the plan to give Favors time to win a job, and Blair is signed cheaply.

Denver needs bigs? How about the Nets! I would not include Murphy in that deal. Murphy can play both PF and Center. We need his shooting prowess and rebounding efforts. Plus if we keep Murphy, since he will be our own FA at the end of this season, we can sign him and still go over the cap. Just pay luxury tax. The deal would have to be Harris plus spare parts. It would be a real kick in the pants if we acquired Carmelo but still did not have a starting PF. Maybe we will then wait another 7 years to obtain one. Plus Carmelo scares me...

Murphy has to be part of any trade, otherwise the salaries will not match. Also, Denver needs bigs. They would also need a SF (or two). Since we (unfortunately) can't trade Outlaw yet, that means James and/or TWill.

How about this for a trade idea: Harris, T-will, Hump, and a draft pick or two for melo and billups. This would solve our potential PG problem giving us a veteran that melo would be comfotable with and we would be sending enough to Denver for them to accept.

As much as i would love for harris to be the centerpiece of a trade, i dont belive denver would go for it. Especially with his history with injuries.

When the Nets intially signed Farmar I had it in the back of my head, maybe Harris is not going to be with the Nets for much longer.
I wonder if AJ thinks Farmar could handle the point fulltime. Like Mark said, the PG that replaces Devin, if we land Melo, would not have to be a big scorer. Just handle and dish, and hit an occasional jump shot to keep defenses honest.

@Mike - stay tuned this week Mike as we debate all this.

There are two fundamental obstacles for me when discussing trading for Carmelo Anthony.
#1. Overpaying
#2. Creating a hole somewhere else in the lineup.
If it only would take Harris,Hump + James and maybe a #1 draft pick, I would say yes,otherwise buyer beware.
I would not trade Lopez, Favors, Murphy, or T-Will.
If we landed Melo, we might be able to have our own big 3 in a couple of years.
Anthony, Favors and Lopez.

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